The Roc-a-fella associates talk about the intersection of hip-hop and electronic dance music, among other things.

Just Blaze, the former in-house producer for Roc-a-Fella, and Young Guru, Jay-Z’s longtime engineer, recently interviewed each other for Hard Knock TV. The 12-minute discussion touches on Just Blaze’s recent forays into house and EDM (with ‘Harlem Shake’ producer Baauer), changes in the hip-hop world, and anecdotes about working with Jay-Z, Dame Dash, and more.

Interestingly, Blaze reveals that Jay-Z’s ‘Girls Girls Girls’ was originally intended for Ghostface. Watch the 12-minute clip below. Just Blaze has an EP for Fool’s Gold in the works, and FACT documented his essential beats late last year.